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Title: Kombustor error
Post by: Hopper64 on November 11, 2020, 12:26:13 AM
Using latest windows 64, 20h2, kombustor crashes with the following error. Latest version of kombustor. Any ideas? Thanks.


Log Name: Application
Source: Application Error
Date: 11/8/2020 1:59:18 PM
Event ID: 1000
Task Category: (100)
Level: Error
Keywords: Classic
User: N/A
Computer:
Description:
Faulting application name: MSI-Kombustor-x64.exe, version: 4.1.7.0, time stamp: 0x5f6daf40
Faulting module name: vulkan-1.dll, version: 1.2.141.0, time stamp: 0x5ed9b44f
Exception code: 0xc000041d
Fault offset: 0x00000000000469a2
Faulting process id: 0xddc
Faulting application start time: 0x01d6b609a2c1a9ad
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\Geeks3D\MSI Kombustor 4 x64\MSI-Kombustor-x64.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\vulkan-1.dll
Report Id: 0fb7c4db-f512-40fa-bfec-c4a217089c99
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:
Event Xml:

Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: Hopper64 on November 11, 2020, 12:31:21 AM
BTW-Using a new EVGA 3090 Ultra.
Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: JeGX on November 11, 2020, 01:47:17 PM
Do you have something in Kombustor log file (_kombustor_log.txt) ?

I'm still with win10 v2004 but I will update to v20H2 asap.
Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: Hopper64 on November 11, 2020, 03:01:00 PM
Don't see any specific error in the log file. Tried it again today with the same application error:

Log Name:      Application
Source:        Application Error
Date:          11/11/2020 7:51:14 AM
Event ID:      1000
Task Category: (100)
Level:         Error
Keywords:      Classic
User:          N/A
Computer:     
Description:
Faulting application name: MSI-Kombustor-x64.exe, version: 4.1.7.0, time stamp: 0x5f6daf40
Faulting module name: vulkan-1.dll, version: 1.2.141.0, time stamp: 0x5ed9b44f
Exception code: 0xc000041d
Fault offset: 0x00000000000469a2
Faulting process id: 0x39f0
Faulting application start time: 0x01d6b831b70da9c9
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\Geeks3D\MSI Kombustor 4 x64\MSI-Kombustor-x64.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\vulkan-1.dll
Report Id: 3ed19f73-c8af-4a42-aed2-3623f164bf18
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:
Event Xml:
Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: JeGX on November 11, 2020, 03:51:03 PM
Ok, I couldn't resist to test, so I updated my system with latest win10 v20H2.
I tested Kombustor 4.1.7 with a RTX 2070 + latest GeForce 457.30, and everything seems ok, no crash.

I don't have yet a RTX 30 GPU, so one thing you can do is to rename the GPU monitoring plugin, maybe it's the source of the crash. The GPU monitoring plugin is located here:

MSI_Kombustor_FOLDER/plugins/plugin_gxc_gpumon_x64.dll

Just rename it to disable it.

What is your graphics driver?
Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: Hopper64 on November 11, 2020, 04:11:33 PM
Driver 457.30.

I added a 1 to the front of the file. No change.


Log Name:      Application
Source:        Application Error
Date:          11/11/2020 9:07:41 AM
Event ID:      1000
Task Category: (100)
Level:         Error
Keywords:      Classic
User:          N/A
Computer:     
Description:
Faulting application name: MSI-Kombustor-x64.exe, version: 4.1.7.0, time stamp: 0x5f6daf40
Faulting module name: zx_x64.dll, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x5f6db46e
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x0000000000041e4d
Faulting process id: 0x1364
Faulting application start time: 0x01d6b83c65be5fbb
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\Geeks3D\MSI Kombustor 4 x64\MSI-Kombustor-x64.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Program Files\Geeks3D\MSI Kombustor 4 x64\zx_x64.dll
Report Id: 0e411e8b-2b04-46e1-8d69-fbbd43132d9b
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: Stefan on November 11, 2020, 07:30:03 PM
Try 457.33 (https://www.geeks3d.com/forums/index.php/topic,6716.msg9553/topicseen.html#msg9553) which is from a different driver branch.

457.33 VK456_14-10
457.30 r457_22-3

Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: Hopper64 on November 11, 2020, 09:06:22 PM
I don’t see a hotfix 457.33 driver available. Where would you download that?
Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: Stefan on November 11, 2020, 09:34:22 PM
It's not a hotfix, but a dev driver
https://developer.nvidia.com/vulkan-driver

Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: Hopper64 on November 11, 2020, 09:56:53 PM
So I download that driver  and install over my existing 457.30 regular GeForce driver?
Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: Stefan on November 11, 2020, 10:09:43 PM
Yes, should be no problem.
If you don't like a newer driver for whatever reason, you can always quickly roll back via device manager.

Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: Hopper64 on November 11, 2020, 10:32:31 PM
I downloaded and looked at the installation files. It will change my existing installation including GeForce experience. I would prefer not to do that if possible. Any other ideas? Thanks!
Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: Stefan on November 11, 2020, 10:43:16 PM
If you are not in a hurry, you can recheck with the "RTX 3060 Ti" launch driver on December 2nd
Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: Hopper64 on November 11, 2020, 11:06:18 PM
I’ll probably wait on that and report back. I need a water block for this 3090 FTW EVGA card anyway. Hope EK comes out with something soon. Prefer to have it under water to let it really stretch its legs. Thanks!!
Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: Hopper64 on December 02, 2020, 06:28:41 PM
Just tried new driver 357.51. Still the same error:


Log Name:      Application
Source:        Application Error
Date:          12/2/2020 11:25:05 AM
Event ID:      1000
Task Category: (100)
Level:         Error
Keywords:      Classic
User:          N/A
Computer:     
Description:
Faulting application name: MSI-Kombustor-x64.exe, version: 4.1.7.0, time stamp: 0x5f6daf40
Faulting module name: vulkan-1.dll, version: 1.2.141.0, time stamp: 0x5ed9b44f
Exception code: 0xc000041d
Fault offset: 0x00000000000469a2
Faulting process id: 0xee0
Faulting application start time: 0x01d6c8d00f780c5a
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\Geeks3D\MSI Kombustor 4 x64\MSI-Kombustor-x64.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\vulkan-1.dll
Report Id: 135fd08e-b4ec-4459-b9db-350be956e16d
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:
Event Xml:
Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: JeGX on December 03, 2020, 11:59:25 AM
There is something I didn't understand: do you manage to launch Kombustor and see the main user interface?
Looks like there is an issue with Vulkan demos. Can you start an OpenGL demo?
Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: Hopper64 on December 03, 2020, 01:02:27 PM
I do not see the main interface actually. I just see the cursor of the mouse turn and nothing else.
Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: JeGX on December 03, 2020, 04:23:16 PM
ok so try to rename the Vulkan plugin to disable it:
{Kombustor folder}/plugins/plugin_gxc_vulkan2_x64.dll

Can you start Kombustor after that change?
Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: Hopper64 on December 04, 2020, 12:04:15 AM
Yes! That worked. Renaming the vulkan plugin worked. I didn't know there was a new version of Kombustor available. Downloaded that 4.1.8.0 and still had the same issue, but I just placed a (1) in front of the plugin file--- /plugins/1plugin_gxc_vulkan2_x64.dll and all works as intended. Thanks for the help!!  :)
Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: JeGX on December 05, 2020, 09:43:47 AM
Cool!
There must be a bug in my Vulkan code with new RTX 30 series. But I still don't have a RTX 30 card and then I can't reproduce and fix the bug.
Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: Hopper64 on December 05, 2020, 10:09:58 AM
Everything appears to work ok without that particular file. Should I wait on an update before using the application? Thanks again!
Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: JeGX on December 05, 2020, 11:02:40 AM
Everything appears to work ok without that particular file.

Except  Vulkan demos, right?
I will release a new Kombustor in the next days, but there's no warranty Vulkan demos will work with your RTX 30.
Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: Hopper64 on December 05, 2020, 11:07:17 PM
I was mainly concerned for the stress test to make sure my OC was stable. I wasn’t sure if that file was a dependency, but it appears not to be so. I don’t have experience with Vulcan demos or applications that use that programming interface.

Thanks for your kind assistance! Much appreciated!!
Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: Hopper64 on December 12, 2020, 03:07:15 PM
Just tried the new 4.1.9 Version of kombustor. Works great!! No need to alter the plugin file for Vulkan for the application to work. Thank you!!  :)
Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: JeGX on December 12, 2020, 04:42:10 PM
Thank you for the feedback. There was probably a bug that has been fixed these last days/weeks with all changes I made in the Vulkan plugin. Cool!
Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: Hopper64 on December 12, 2020, 04:56:36 PM
Appreciate your efforts!!
Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: Hopper64 on December 16, 2020, 02:48:46 AM
I'm getting crashes again with 4.1.10. Same issue, but changing the vulkan plugin file name fixes the problem as before. Newest Nvidia driver 460.89.

Log Name:      Application
Source:        Application Error
Date:          12/15/2020 7:42:23 PM
Event ID:      1000
Task Category: (100)
Level:         Error
Keywords:      Classic
User:          N/A
Computer:     
Description:
Faulting application name: MSI-Kombustor-x64.exe, version: 4.1.10.0, time stamp: 0x5fd758e1
Faulting module name: vulkan-1.dll, version: 1.2.148.1, time stamp: 0x5f32cab3
Exception code: 0xc000041d
Fault offset: 0x0000000000047fd2
Faulting process id: 0x154
Faulting application start time: 0x01d6d34cb1dd8267
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\Geeks3D\MSI Kombustor 4 x64\MSI-Kombustor-x64.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\vulkan-1.dll
Report Id: 00a390a7-2da6-46af-a60c-1d27b19ce871
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:
Event Xml:
Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: JeGX on December 16, 2020, 05:21:06 PM
It's really weird. I tested Kombustor 4.1.10 with a RTX 3060 Ti and it works fine (drivers: 460.89).
Could you do a clean re-install of your drivers?

Could you also test these apps that have a Vulkan module:
- GPU Caps Viewer ( https://www.geeks3d.com/20201202/gpu-caps-viewer-1-49-0-released/ )
- GPU-Z ( https://www.geeks3d.com/dl/show/10001 )
- GeeXLab ( https://www.geeks3d.com/dl/show/500 )

Or maybe it's a bad compilation of the Vulkan plugin...
Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: JeGX on December 16, 2020, 08:19:31 PM
No, don't re-install your drivers. I have some strange behaviors with my RTX 3060 Ti (like the current power draw (TDP) that is not displayed). I think that as soon as I can, I will recompile the whole project.
Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: Hopper64 on December 16, 2020, 11:27:31 PM
Thanks. I know GPU Z works fine. I have that installed already. Appreciate your help.
Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: Hopper64 on January 31, 2021, 03:37:15 PM
The new version 4.1.11.0 works fine. No errors here at all. Thank you!!
Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: JeGX on February 01, 2021, 08:01:35 AM
The new version 4.1.11.0 works fine. No errors here at all. Thank you!!
Great! Thanks for your feedback.
Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: Hopper64 on February 04, 2021, 12:50:15 AM
Well, this is odd. It's been working fine with 4.1.11.0 and nvidia driver 461.40, then the app crashed again through MSI AB with the following error. I clicked the kombustor icon again and it came right up. ??


Log Name:      Application
Source:        Application Error
Date:          2/3/2021 5:43:05 PM
Event ID:      1000
Task Category: (100)
Level:         Error
Keywords:      Classic
User:          N/A
Computer:     
Description:
Faulting application name: MSI-Kombustor-x64.exe, version: 4.1.11.0, time stamp: 0x6015835d
Faulting module name: vulkan-1.dll, version: 1.2.162.0, time stamp: 0x5fd3ef4d
Exception code: 0xc000041d
Fault offset: 0x00000000000390cf
Faulting process id: 0x357c
Faulting application start time: 0x01d6fa864eda46e7
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\Geeks3D\MSI Kombustor 4 x64\MSI-Kombustor-x64.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\vulkan-1.dll
Report Id: a801aa89-afd5-44ca-b12c-491b18936bac
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:
Event Xml:
Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: Hopper64 on February 12, 2021, 10:58:30 PM
This may be related to riva tuner. Just saw this post about RTSS and Vulcan. Updated to the RTSS RC and seems to be working correctly.

Post #2987.

https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/rtss-6-7-0-beta-1.412822/page-150



Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: JeGX on February 15, 2021, 11:04:50 AM
Interesting info. I rarely use rivatuner / msi afterburner during my tests and benchmarks, that's why I didn't see this issue. Will try to launch afterburner more often in the future.
Title: Re: Kombustor error
Post by: Hopper64 on February 15, 2021, 11:33:38 AM
Yes. I didn’t even consider a connection between the 2 until I see that post. I use MSI AB and RTSS to OC my card/monitor stats in game.